SPOILERS Raising Steam *Warning Spoilers*
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Re the actual book ... "you can pretend like no bees' nest", says one of the goblins to Moist.
Normally goblin-speak is reasonably unravelable, but I don't get that one at all. Can any one shed any light on it? If it had been just "a bees' nest" it might have meant creating a buzz, but it isn't.
PS I know what people might mean by "not by Terry Pratchett", but only because you can see the joins more in recent books than you can in the older ones. It's clearly either written by Terry Pratchett "or someone else of the same name", as somebody once said of Homer.
I have not finished the book yet, so I will know probably after the weekend what the disappointed reviewers are having a problem with. Yes, if Lao-tse plays no further part in the story, i will know that the bits are there, but the stitching-up of the bits hasn't reached the normal cosmic Pratchett standard. I've seen it appproaching. I still feel privilaged to live in a time when his books are being published.
PS the footnote on page 169 doesn't quite deal with the fact that in Snuff, the unggue pots were not ceramic at all, they were made of stone. There are quite a few little discontinuities like this. But then, it's a book, isn't it?
Normally goblin-speak is reasonably unravelable, but I don't get that one at all. Can any one shed any light on it? If it had been just "a bees' nest" it might have meant creating a buzz, but it isn't.
PS I know what people might mean by "not by Terry Pratchett", but only because you can see the joins more in recent books than you can in the older ones. It's clearly either written by Terry Pratchett "or someone else of the same name", as somebody once said of Homer.
I have not finished the book yet, so I will know probably after the weekend what the disappointed reviewers are having a problem with. Yes, if Lao-tse plays no further part in the story, i will know that the bits are there, but the stitching-up of the bits hasn't reached the normal cosmic Pratchett standard. I've seen it appproaching. I still feel privilaged to live in a time when his books are being published.
PS the footnote on page 169 doesn't quite deal with the fact that in Snuff, the unggue pots were not ceramic at all, they were made of stone. There are quite a few little discontinuities like this. But then, it's a book, isn't it?
Weird book, to say the least. Weird disworld book, weird Moist book and weird Pratchett book.
The focus of the story keeps changing to the point that after the first third of the book i found myself thinking "who's supposed to be the main character of this book ?"
And is that Moist Von Lipwig ?
Well, i can easily see why some people are saying that it feels like if Pratchett didn't write this book.
The focus of the story keeps changing to the point that after the first third of the book i found myself thinking "who's supposed to be the main character of this book ?"
And is that Moist Von Lipwig ?
Well, i can easily see why some people are saying that it feels like if Pratchett didn't write this book.
I know why some people can see the joins, and are wondering about Moist, but I still enjoyed it.
Most of the things that bothered me about Raising Steam were relatively small ones. But one thing that keeps bothering me, and spoiler alert, is that I thought Ardent the Grag was killed at the end of Thud! by Bashfull Bashfullsson.
Most of the things that bothered me about Raising Steam were relatively small ones. But one thing that keeps bothering me, and spoiler alert, is that I thought Ardent the Grag was killed at the end of Thud! by Bashfull Bashfullsson.
I believe Ardent was merely incapacitated after enduring a karate chop to the throat, voice-less but very much alive.
I enjoyed the read and and am reading it again because I have a tendency to devour the man's words. The narrative has a certain feel that much is certain but all things considering we can do nothing but appreciate the fortieth DW opus. I hope to elaborate further but in the mean time it's a thumbs up from me.
I enjoyed the read and and am reading it again because I have a tendency to devour the man's words. The narrative has a certain feel that much is certain but all things considering we can do nothing but appreciate the fortieth DW opus. I hope to elaborate further but in the mean time it's a thumbs up from me.
I thought the book was amazing, though as with anything there will always be the odd flaw or two (literally "or two"), those little imperfections you'll get in any book but honestly they really arent a big deal in this. I think it was great the patrician had a bigger role/script this time and i liked how we got to see more interaction between the various protagonists (e.g vimes + slightly wet). I love how the fictional world is more detailed now too, the map that came with my copy filled in the gaps a bit (i cant really map out the various places so the maps that come with the various books really help) I know where the chalk is now at last for example 
Back in the 1920s or so, "the bees knees" was funny-Frenchish-speak for "the business" - something that was the best, the most professional. There was an associated phrase, doing something "like nobody's business" meaning "very well". I assume that either the goblin was complimenting somebody's ability to pretend, or possibly suggesting that someone pretend there was no business going on.
Who's Wee Dug said:
Like it so far I did not recognise Briggs narration at first as he sounded totally different, but as soon he was voicing a older Disworld character all was well. 
I haven't heard Stephen Briggs at all.
I regularly tell people they're the bee's knees.
Raising Steam is on my Christmas list. I usually can't wait but I will this year.
